2m dish is it worth it?.

[barney115]

These are mens dishes, they aint for puppy boys !

@moonbase ...Do you mean those dishes in your pics ?
They look pretty small 1.6m max ??
really do not look like 2.4m from those pics .... and the petals if not 1 piece i'd run far away from personally speaking they surely be a nightmare any slight gust of wind and they'd be blown away in four pieces
i've seen greenhouses blown 2 fields away here with the kinda high winds we get , also those D.I.Y Cable tied LNB holders do not look very professional or original to me i hope i'm wrong look like a TMate dish lnb holder cable tied together ?

 

[butchyboy]

Not sure if Prodelin or CM 2.4m one piece dishes never existed.
It would be so difficult to move such dishes.
My CM 2.4m offset dish is a RX-only one and is made by 2 pieces.

a big yes to the cm 2.4m is indeed a 2 piece,where as the prodelin 2.4m there is a 4 piece dish,but i would not have great knowledge about the prodeline dishes.
but as i say the man does not know much himself in regards to weather its a cm or prodeline,strange how a person does not know,all i can say is that he said its stored years and he has just forgotten about it.think he does not have a great understanding of dishes,but we will see.

 

[butchyboy]

@moonbase ...Do you mean those dishes in your pics ?
They look pretty small 1.6m max ??
really do not look like 2.4m from those pics .... and the petals if not 1 piece i'd run far away from personally speaking they surely be a nightmare any slight gust of wind and they'd be blown away in four pieces
i've seen greenhouses blown 2 fields away here with the kinda high winds we get , also those D.I.Y Cable tied LNB holders do not look very professional or original to me i hope i'm wrong look like a TMate dish lnb holder cable tied together ?

the are indeed pics of 2.4m the might not look big in pics,but up close there big mommas,the are quality dishes the are broadcast quality.high scale stuff for a sat hobby
the aint blowing any where with proper installation.................
#BIG GUNS

 

[barney115]

look tiny from the pics taken they look no bigger than 1.2m dishes to look at .
broadcast quality but LNB holder/s is cable tied ??
pole granted is legit and could withstand lot of wind but dishes 4 pieces look like any good gust of wind and they'd be blown far , far away .
Those pics certainly do those dishes no justice at all from what i see but Feed horn does look like its very well done and could give good enough signals on a solid dish perhaps : )

 

[moonbase]

@moonbase ...Do you mean those dishes in your pics ?
They look pretty small 1.6m max ??
really do not look like 2.4m from those pics .... and the petals if not 1 piece i'd run far away from personally speaking they surely be a nightmare any slight gust of wind and they'd be blown away in four pieces
i've seen greenhouses blown 2 fields away here with the kinda high winds we get , also those D.I.Y Cable tied LNB holders do not look very professional or original to me i hope i'm wrong look like a TMate dish lnb holder cable tied together ?

@barney115

Yes, those are Prodelin 1244 model 2.4m Rx/Tx dishes with 4 segments
They are a broadcast grade dish with transmit and receive capability and if setup correctly are at least the equivalent of a 2.4m CM dish.
If they were not this quality they would not get used by commercial organisations for satellite uplinks and downlinks.

The LNB holder is not cable tied, the cable ties are only to keep the LNB cables neatly routed, they are not to keep the feed assembly in place.
Metal bolts hold the feed arm assembly to the feed arm, it aint going anywhere.
If you check the 1st of the two pictures in post 58 that show the feed assembly, on the left you can see one of the two holes that are used to secure the feed assembly in place by bolts.

Don't worry about them blowing away, I can assure you that they do not blow away in strong winds once installed and that they give the expected SNR dB signal level for their size of 2.4m.
The rear mounting frame and quadrant linking system is very robust and provides precise quadrant alignment. How do I know this, I have access to one that is installed and I have tested it extensively.

If @butchyboy gets the 2.4m Prodelin and installs it correctly he will be able to confirm these points.
He will be the top Irish dx man on this forum, dat's for sure.

Like I said earlier, these are mens dishes, not for inexperienced puppy boys.

 

[moonbase]

the are indeed pics of 2.4m the might not look big in pics,but up close there big mommas,the are quality dishes the are broadcast quality.high scale stuff for a sat hobby
the aint blowing any where with proper installation.................
#BIG GUNS

Too right butchy, I hope you get the one you are chatting to the seller about and that all the accessories come with it.
If you do get it, hopefully you will be able to confirm your impression of it from close up and personal use.

One thing to check, try to remember to confirm what accessories come with it re the feed arms, feed assembly and the mounting frame.
Ideally, you need to go and see it and have a hunt about for all the accessories.

 

[moonbase]

Not sure if Prodelin or CM 2.4m one piece dishes never existed.
It would be so difficult to move such dishes.
My CM 2.4m offset dish is a RX-only one and is made by 2 pieces.

There is a single piece version of the 2.4m CM, also badged as Andrew, Raven and Skyware Global.
Google is your friend...

'ere, picture below, I blacked out any supplier details re forum advertising rules
"Very high gain one piece" highlighted by the thin red border.

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[barney115]

Those are fixed dishes i assume ?
pics are bit too zoomed in if 2.4m it does not do them justice as they look a lot smaller
Feed horn looks good on that inverto black Pro twin Flange

 

[moonbase]

Those are fixed dishes i assume ?
pics are bit too zoomed in if 2.4m it does not do them justice as they look a lot smaller
Feed horn looks good on that inverto black Pro twin Flange

The pictures I uploaded are fixed dishes but there is a motorised mount available from Prodelin.
Also, the rear mounting frame of the fixed mount might be able to be modified with an adapter plate to get it secured to other manufacturers motorised mounts.
I think @butchyboy has a contact who is a fabricator? It should not be too difficult to get something made up to get the Prodelin motorised?

I modified the original feedhorn simply by drilling/upsizing a couple of the original feedhorn bolt holes and drilling two new ones.
It is an established modification, I can take no credit for it, it is well documented elsewhere.
Pics below of the one I did.

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[butchyboy]

guys may i ask how would the prodeline 2.4m compare to a cm 2.4m and the precision 2.m.

im thinking of buying the prodeline 2.4m as it has popped up here in ireland for sale and looking for 800 euros and thats with a fixed az/el mount.

im thinking i could put the polarmount i got fabricated for my cm 1.8m on to the prodeline 2.4m,as the polarmount is a serious piece of kit weighs 35kg and all 10mm steel.

any taughts or advice be greatly appreciated,cheers

 

[moonbase]

guys may i ask how would the prodeline 2.4m compare to a cm 2.4m and the precision 2.m.

im thinking of buying the prodeline 2.4m as it has popped up here in ireland for sale and looking for 800 euros and thats with a fixed az/el mount.

im thinking i could put the polarmount i got fabricated for my cm 1.8m on to the prodeline 2.4m,as the polarmount is a serious piece of kit weighs 35kg and all 10mm steel.

any taughts or advice be greatly appreciated,cheers

Prodelin 2.4m is easy worth 800 yoyo's with a fixed Az/El mount included.
It will kick the bitch outta a 2.0m Precision and is good as a 2.4m CM
Get it bought.

 

[butchyboy]

Prodelin 2.4m is easy worth 800 yoyo's with a fixed Az/El mount included.
It will kick the bitch outta a 2.0m Precision and is good as a 2.4m CM
Get it bought.

thanks @moonbase

 

[butchyboy]

oops i ment the precision 2.2m dish not a 2m.

 

[moonbase]

The Precision 2.2m is sold, gone.

 

[butchyboy]

The Precision 2.2m is sold, gone.

yep seen that moon,someone got a fantastic deal and top notch dish.

 

[moonbase]

yep seen that moon,someone got a fantastic deal and top notch dish.

Seller was threatening to cut it up and take it to the tip if he did not sell it.
Looking at the listing, it says he accepted the best offer?

 

[butchyboy]

Seller was threatening to cut it up and take it to the tip if he did not sell it.
Dont know if he took an angle grinder to it or if it sold to a buyer.

he messaged me saying it was sold.

how would the prodeline 2.4m fair against the precision 2.2m or would there be much in it?.

 

[moonbase]

he messaged me saying it was sold.

how would the prodeline 2.4m fair against the precision 2.2m or would there be much in it?.

If the Prodelin 2.4m was set up correctly with the panels string checked at various points it should perform better than a Precision 2.2m in my personal opinion.
The extra 0.2m size might get it over the line.

 

[blejac]

I decided to buy a CM Raven 2.4m, the dish is in excellent condition. The only thing that worries me is that the disk is over 20 years old. Is there a difference in the quality of the reception, maybe the newer discs have a better center for receiving the signal?

 

[moonbase]

I decided to buy a CM Raven 2.4m, the dish is in excellent condition. The only thing that worries me is that the disk is over 20 years old. Is there a difference in the quality of the reception, maybe the newer discs have a better center for receiving the signal?

Provided there is no damage to the dish it should perform as good as a new one.
The mould that was used to create the dishes 20 years ago is probably the same profile mould that is used today.
The shape should be identical for an old or a new dish.

Is this the same dish that you provided the link to in another topic?
If it is you, have the version with the secondary sub reflector. very nice version with good scope for fine tuning the LNB and Feed.