Is ok
Coming back to old trasponders using known keys,I found out they changed the ID to 08-0A.
This is RCN/NTN in SES 6 4028mhz.
Now,I also see they are using simulcrypt with irdeto (CA id 0651),and one of the channels seem to not have any data in tandberg ECM pid,leaving only irdeto functional.
I guess they are gonna abandon tandberg eventually.