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Motorise itah ok, well i got everything i would need, just need to find a multi LNB that will work in south east england and away i go
Thanks for all the help, looking forward to what comes next.
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Satellite Dish Set Up Questions
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i may do that but i wont get away with a 1m dish where i live so maybe look into a multi LNB setup
Very impressed as been using IPTV since CS went a few years back, how reliable has this been for UK?
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What size dish? To receive what sats?
im in southend on the south east coast of england wit clear line of site, i want 13e-28.2e, other than 28e i just want 3pm english commentry so whatever i need for that?
currently just running a mini dish as viark 4k only arrived today but do want options for 3pm footy thats not IPTV.
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You need 16e DigitalB Supersports for English channel for epl, a small dish won't do it?
@william-1 may be able to help with dish size requirements
ok, how strong is the beam, could i get with a Wave Frontier 55CM Toroidal Dish?
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I don't know much about that dish except it's multi lnb, but that's way too small imo if it doesn't massively outperform more than an average 55cm dish, you would possibly need 85cm min dish to receive 16e in all weathers for your location.
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thanks i will look into.
You’ve got no chance with a 55cm. I doubt you’ll even find it, I couldn’t with a Triax 65cm. Apparently it is possible with a Sky Zone 2 but going multi LNB with a sky dish isn’t advised and you’ll have minimal rain margin.
16e is sandwiched in between two really strong satellites, 13e and 19.2e. To get the beam and prevent the swamping you need at least a good quality 80cm and even then, it’ll go off in strong showers.
I have a Triax 88cm and it really has to hammer it down to get pixelation - to the kind of levels I lose 19.2e and 13e too.
People rave about Frecarro Penta 85’s. Never tried one myself. Supposed to have excellent gain for their size.
The TD88 I have is another good ‘smaller’ dish.
13e and 19.2e will be ok on a 60cm.
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Agree with Azimuth above. I have done a multi lnb set up, both with an 80cm and a 97cm dish, so just under the 1m legal requirement.
I set up the following satellites using a combination of Inverto Black Ultra and Venton( Ultra thin body) LNBs.
I centred the dish on 16E to maximise the signal from that satellite. I was then able to add...
7E, 9E, 13E to the left as you look up to the sky and 19.2E, 23.5E and 28.2E to the right as you look up to the sky standing
behind the dish. That's 7 lnbs on one multi-bracket. All signals came in well and had rain margin in normal moderate
UK rain. It's only during a rare monsoon style downpour where there have been signal issues on the outer sats and the
weaker transponders.
Because of the spacing between 13E, 16E and 19.2E I used an Inverto for 16E, and then a Venton on either side
for 13E and 19.2E, because they are really slimline and very good. The Inverto is brilliant for weaker signals.
You can pick up 13E and 19.2E on a 60cm, but you should centre it on 13E, rather than 19.2E as 19.2E is stronger
than 13E.
Whenever doing a multi-lnb setup always try to centre on the weakest satellite to maximise your signals on the outer
satellites.
Good luck and please let us know how you get on and how we can help in any way.
Thanks guys, im a tinkerer , more the challenge of getting working than actually watching anything, has always been that way since the dbox days, i had a motorised dish before but always had problems so fancy a multi-lnb this time although will have to think about it as my house is on the corner of the streat with old fuddy duddies all around.
Fuddy duddies or not, you are within your rights to erect a 100cm dish and a 60cm dish.
I think the UK law permits that volumetric combination. So two separate 80cm dishes would also work.
It does sound like you are worried about your neighbours discussing your set up and disapproving of its presence.
Therefore, if there is a way for you to erect and mount your dish at the back of the house or away from the street
then that may suit you better.
Regardless of the above, you need to ensure that you have an unobstructed view of the satellites you want.
I do have a terrace to the side of my house so could stand mount which would hide it mostly, wouldnt be able to fix down as its a flat roof but if i can weigh it down that could work, ill have to look at my dish options.
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I thought, whether the Croatian national channels of HRTV1, HRTV2, which are on eastsat 16 east will be opened.
I have sat my dishes on a non penetrating ground mount before due to neighbours and stupid local regulations limiting dishes to 60cm. The joy of satellite is as long as you have a clear view of the sky, you’re laughing unlike an aerial that usually needs elevation, you can sit them on the floor. NPRM’s come up cheap on eBay / gumtree quite frequently and if you’re lucky, with a dish too. 4x 600x600 slabs to weigh them down.
Your strongest sats in Europe are 5w, 13e,19.2e, 23.5e and 28.2. All of those you’ll get on a 60cm easily.
Plenty of football on 13e on Nova, great pic quality (better than 16e) and Stadium soundtrack if the Greek comms annoy you.
If you want English comms you’re limited to 16e.
You could run the 55cm on 13e,19.2e, 23.5e and 28.2e and have a static 80cm on 16e just for the footy.
You can get dishes dirt cheap these days. I got mine for £10.
Your strongest sats in Europe are 5w, 13e,19.2e, 23.5e and 28.2. All of those you’ll get on a 60cm easily.
Plenty of football on 13e on Nova, great pic quality (better than 16e) and Stadium soundtrack if the Greek comms annoy you.
If you want English comms you’re limited to 16e.
You could run the 55cm on 13e,19.2e, 23.5e and 28.2e and have a static 80cm on 16e just for the footy.
You can get dishes dirt cheap these days. I got mine for £10.
Thats a good idea, i might see how i get on with the T55 and maybe ad an 80cm later just for 16.5.
An NPRM i didnt even know existed and would be perfect, we are on the corner by the seafront so will need substantial weight to stop moving as so windy up there.
They’re frequently used on commercial building flat roofs - the heavy duty ones can take 1.2m Channel Master dishes so an 80cm will be no bother, Channel Masters are heavy with a fairly big wind load.
As for 16e, strongest transponder is 11262 H 30000 Al Jazeera.
Good luck, you’ll need a lot of patience finding it with a 55cm.
Im gonna find an 80cm and motor now to go on a NPRM bracket now then i have all avenues covered , thanks for the great advice.
If you’re gonna motorise it and can get away with it, go for a bigger dish than an 80cm. I wouldn’t go over a 1m though if it’s windy location, especially when using a Diseqc motor.
An 80cm is the minimum you want for 16e. A lot of dishes are not the size they are advertised at. Some 1m dishes are 87-90cm. Some come in at 105cm x 100cm.
If you’re motorising you’ll need a clear view of due south as at your location, your reference Sat (home satellite) will be Thor on 0.8w.