Is mpeg4 decoding possible?

babayaga

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Hi, gurus!
Russian operator NTV+ (HTB+) has just announced that they are switching to mpeg4 broadcast which requires at least a change of the subscription card. They are also ready to sell me a new CAM and a new receiver. So I've got 2 questions:
1. Is mpeg4 decoding at all possible with Vu+ Solo2 with official mpeg4 subscription card?
2. If yes, is there a softcam which would decode the card?
3. If not, must buy a new Viaccess CAM from them or my current Viaccess which is has been working with their mpeg2 transmission should work? Put it differently, does CAM have anything to do with mpeg2/4?
Thank you!
 

LoginX

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lol that was funny to be honest :D
How Jan said, has to do just with Video so if you STB does H264/MPEG4 you will be fine.
 

andres66

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Hi, gurus!
Russian operator NTV+ (HTB+) has just announced that they are switching to mpeg4 broadcast which requires at least a change of the subscription card. They are also ready to sell me a new CAM and a new receiver. So I've got 2 questions:
1. Is mpeg4 decoding at all possible with Vu+ Solo2 with official mpeg4 subscription card?
2. If yes, is there a softcam which would decode the card?
3. If not, must buy a new Viaccess CAM from them or my current Viaccess which is has been working with their mpeg2 transmission should work? Put it differently, does CAM have anything to do with mpeg2/4?
Thank you!

About new NTV+ receiver + NTV+ card - will this new card work out of NTV+ receiver,
in your Vu+ Solo2, I have no idea. I think not, but you must read russian forums,
what receiver model you will get then and about card in softcam...

About NTV+ CI+ CAM modules -

a) is older Viaccess SMIT CI+ module, CI+ vers. 1.2, it works in Openbox, Skyway, in others tuners CI+ slot, but not in Vu+ / Xtrend/ Mutant (enigma2 tuners) CI slot.

b) is new, since year 2015 ( or was it 2014), NTV+ Viaccess NEOTION CI+ module, CI+ version 1.3.

It also works in your Vu+ Solo2 CI module slot, when you have in use image, what has non-official
CI+ support -
1. VTi image
2. OpenATV image
(about latest BlackHole I don't know, maybe BH CI+ support is for Solo 4K only... I have sold my Vu+ ,
Vu+ Duo2, in October 2015)

Nonofficial CI+ support have Solo2, Solo SE and Duo2 , + Vu+ Solo 4K ( .. with VTi and OpenATV images)

c) and is new Viaccess SMIT CI+ module, from year 2016, CI+ vers. 1.3,

must also work in your Solo2 CI slot when right image is used.

Again - I think, new card what comes with CI+ module, will not work in your Solo2 cardslot when OSCam is used. Maybe you can clear some SD channels part this way, but HD channels 100% not.

... read russian forums, what is going on and what is best solution for you - Ci+ module/card or NTV+ tuner/card. ( .. or use some times cheap NTV+ _cardsharing, until it works and only when it will be closed maybe, then move back to official viewing)
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Neotion CI+ v.1.3 module in Mut@nt HD2400 slot ( Mutant has CI+ supported also with OpenPLi, OpenViX and others, not only OpenATV can be used)

 
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andres66

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plus:

with NTV+ Neotion CI+ module I have MPEG4 card,
viaccess 0500:050A00


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**** OSCam << cardserver log switched at Sat Feb 27 13:46:29 2016
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2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s **** OSCam << cardserver log switched, version 1.20-SU-r321-EMU-r331-731-JoeUser, build r11211 (mipsel-openpli40-linux-gnu)
2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s (main) System name = Linux
2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s (main) Host name = hd2400
2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s (main) Release = 4.0.1
2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s (main) Version = #1 SMP Wed Feb 3 19:02:36 CET 2016
2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s (main) Machine = mips
2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s (main) Stb model = dm800se
2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s (main) Stb boxtype = hd2400
************
2016/02/27 13:46:29 00000000 s (main) waiting for local card init
2016/02/27 13:46:29 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] Reader initialized (device=/dev/sci0, detect=cd, pll max=27.00 MHz, wanted mhz=4.50 MHz)
2016/02/27 13:46:29 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] Reader sci internal, detected box type: hd2400
************
2016/02/27 13:46:30 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] card detected
2016/02/27 13:46:30 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] ATR: 3F 77 18 00 00 C2 EB 41 02 6C 90 00
************
2016/02/27 13:46:36 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] Buffers readed 0 bytes total time_us 5999660
2016/02/27 13:46:36 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] Init card protocol T0, FI=1, F=372, D=12, N=0
2016/02/27 13:46:36 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] Calculated work ETU is 6.89 us reader mhz = 450
2016/02/27 13:46:36 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] Buffers readed 0 bytes total time_us 75126
2016/02/27 13:46:37 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] PLL Reader: ATR Fsmax is 5 MHz, clocking card to 4.50 Mhz (nearest possible mhz specified reader->mhz)
2016/02/27 13:46:38 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] using ecm #705 for long viaccess ecm
2016/02/27 13:46:38 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] type: Viaccess (non-standard atr), caid: 0500, serial: #
2016/02/27 13:46:38 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] providers: 2 (FFF500,050A00)
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] Maturity level [7]= older than 7 years
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] ready for requests
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [internal] found card system viaccess
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [viaccess] THIS WAS A SUCCESSFUL START ATTEMPT No 1 out of max alloted of 1
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [viaccess] card detected
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [viaccess] serial: ##########
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [viaccess] provider: 1, id: ##################, sa: ########, geo: empty
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [viaccess] provider: 2, id: ##################, sa: ########, geo: 52 55 53 2A
2016/02/27 13:46:39 1027D78A r (reader) ntvplus_kaart [viaccess] class: 32, expiry date: 2016/02/01 - 2016/02/29
2016/02/27 13:46:40 00000000 s (main) init for all local cards done
***********
2016/02/27 13:46:45 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 serving srvid 3EE5 (FFFE@000000:3EE5 unknown) on adapter 0000 camask 0001 index 0000 pmtpid 0641
2016/02/27 13:46:45 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) sdt-info (provider: HTB+ - channel: ИНФОКАНАЛ НТВ-ПЛЮС)
2016/02/27 13:46:56 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stop descrambling program number 3EE5 (0000@000000:3EE5 unknown)
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 0500 ECM_PID: 100A PROVID: 040610
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 1 CAID: 0500 ECM_PID: 106E PROVID: 040620
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 2 CAID: 0500 ECM_PID: 13F2 PROVID: 050B00
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 3 CAID: 0500 ECM_PID: 1456 PROVID: 050A00
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 4 CAID: 0500 ECM_PID: 1776 PROVID: 060A00
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stream Videostream (MPEG-4)(type: 1b pid: 0132 length: 0)
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stream Audiostream (MPEG-2)(type: 04 pid: 0196 length: 0)
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 5 ECMpids and 2 STREAMpids in caPMT
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 serving srvid 4E8A (Россия HD) on adapter 0000 camask 0001 index 0000 pmtpid 00CE
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 3 CAID 0500 PROVID 050A00 ECMPID 1456 ANY CHID PMTPID 00CE VPID 0132
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stream Videostream (MPEG-4)(type: 1b pid: 0132 length: 0)
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 stream Audiostream (MPEG-2)(type: 04 pid: 0196 length: 0)
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 5 ECMpids and 2 STREAMpids in PMT
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 serving srvid 4E8A (Россия HD) on adapter 0000 camask 0001 index 0000 pmtpid 00CE
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (dvbapi) sdt-info (provider: HTB+ - channel: Россия HD)
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1027D78A r (aes) AES Decrypt key 1 not found for 0500@050A00 (aka V 050A00 E1 ...)
2016/02/27 13:46:57 1485D1EB c (ecm) dvbapi (0500&050A00/4E8A/1456/0B01/15C:00000000000000000000000000000000): not found (296 ms) by ntvplus_kaart - Россия HD (key to use is not the curren

AES Key is needed for OSCam, to read this card,
but this AES Key is not public.

Also was/is not public 0500:040620 AES Key,
older NTV+ card AES Key.
Caid/ident 0500:040620, since year 2014, is used to get HD channels part and SD MPEG4 channels part from __cs-servers, these
cards homesharing is also not possible, because AES key is missing.
 
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