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fmoreira

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@percivjr and @Sataday thanks for your time and input....

Was a pids issue... i have not yet all channels working but i understand how it´s done.

A side question:
I´m using DreamboxEdit to add pids and after some time the audio Pid it´s overwrite by the box and audio stops working.
It´s possible set the box for do not automatically chande pids?

Thanks again!!
 
EnoSat

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fmoreira said:
I´m using DreamboxEdit to add pids and after some time the audio Pid it´s overwrite by the box and audio stops working.
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If you use the f:4 parameter, the pid box cannot overwrite it because you have disabled reading from the PMT.
Another thing is if you have defined a secondary audio pid, since most programs broadcast both the main and secondary audio pid, which may not be broadcast permanently.
If you use the f:400 parameter, you have access to all PIDs from the PMT.

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fmoreira

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Thanks @EnoSat

I will try to explain my problem better:

Using BBC1 Hd as an example:
- With DreamBox Edit I add the Pids:



- I send it to Box and I have sound and image. It continues like this until I, for example, tune in a new channel on the box and download the channel list back to Dreambox Edit
- On the channel list i downloaded from the box the Pids are changed:




And obviously, when I send the list to the box again I will have image but no sound.

The only solution I found so far was, in the list that came from the box, manually add the Pids again the Pids.

How can I prevent Pids from being changed?

Thanks!!
 
EnoSat

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DreamBoxedit is an old program that allows you to use only 4 options (Flags) for the f parameter, therefore you have to carefully consider what you want to achieve.

f:1 - dxNoSDT
f:2 - dxDontshow
f:4 - dxNoDVB
f:8 - holdName
f:10 -
f:20 -
f:40 - New
f:80 - isDedicated3D
f:100 - parentalProtected
f:200 - hideVBI
f:400 - isScrambledPMT
f:800 - centerDVBsubs
f:1000 - noEIT

As already written by fmoreira, you need to choose the correct cache format
otherwise c12 will be ignored

Original - Dreambox image
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PLi - OpenAlliance image
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fmoreira

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@EnoSat and @lz405

I use a openatv image on my Dm900, so i change PID cache for Pli, but the problem remains... everytime i recall the channel list to DreamboxEdit the Pids are changed!

There is any other software that i can use instead DreamboxEdit? A more recent one?
 
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Don't you have to stop enigma2 before you upload to your box or does DreamBox edit do that for you automatically
 
satellitestuff

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Not sure if this is the correct thread as the posts in the 15w one haven't yet moved into the Encryptions chat, but I'm still struggling to get 15w working as 27.5w.

As the instructions in a post said said, I scanned in the 15w transponder, then edited the bits after "p:" for each channel in lamedb, as well as changing the keys in constant.cw file which was perfectly fine for 27.5w. Sure I'm still missing something as when going to any of the 15w channels it doesn't even look like it's trying to use the constant.cw for them (on 27.5w the file directory where the file is stored is shown on screen as its opens them)

If someone maybe has a working lamedb file for 15w, they would be kind enough to post here for me to test out? I'm guessing that apart from altering lamedb and constant.cw, there's nothing else that needs to be updated/modified?
 
percivjr

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Don't know if you have to adjust namespace...

Code: 
1100:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC NEWS
p:BBC,c:0001f5,c:0101f6,c:0301f5,c:1601f4,C:2600,f:400
1200:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
CBBC
p:BBC,c:00012d,c:01012e,c:03012d,c:1602bc,C:2600,f:400
1c00:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC RB 1
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,c:160384,C:2600,f:400
1140:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC Red Button
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,c:093890101,C:2600,f:1005
1240:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
CBeebies
p:BBC,c:000191,c:010192,c:030191,c:160320,C:2600,f:400
1044:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC ONE
p:BBC,c:000065,c:010066,c:030065,c:09690101,C:2600,f:1005
107c:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC ONE Scot
p:BBC,c:001005,c:011006,c:031005,c:161004,C:2600,f:400
107d:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC ONE NI
p:BBC,c:0013ed,c:0113ee,c:0313ed,c:1613ec,C:2600,f:400
107e:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC ONE Wales
p:BBC,c:000c1d,c:010c1e,c:030c1d,c:160c1c,C:2600,f:400
1280:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
Parliament
p:BBC,c:000259,c:01025a,c:030259,c:091950101,C:2600,f:1005
10bf:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC TWO
p:BBC,c:0000c9,c:0100ca,c:0300c9,c:1600c8,C:2600,f:400
10c0:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC THREE
p:BBC,c:00012d,c:01012e,c:03012d,c:091310101,C:2600,f:4
11c0:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC FOUR
p:BBC,c:000191,c:010192,c:030191,c:091950101,C:2600,f:1005
4f20:0d7aab23:1000:0001:22:0:0
5SELECT
p:Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd,c:001d4d,c:031d4d,c:050001,c:121d4e,c:161d4c,C:2600,f:400
4ec0:0d7aab23:1000:0001:22:0:0
TBN UK
p:Governance Ministries,c:001edd,c:031edd,c:050001,c:121ede,c:161edc,C:2600,f:401
4500:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
Channel 4 HD
p:Channel 4 Broadcasting,c:00189d,c:03189d,c:050001,c:12189e,c:16189c,C:2600,f:400
4600:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
BBC Three HD
p:BBC,c:001b59,c:031b59,c:050001,c:121b5a,C:2600,f:5
4700:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
CBeebies HD
p:BBC,c:001a2d,c:031a2d,c:050001,c:100004,c:111a2e,c:121a2e,C:2600,f:5
4440:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
BBC Two HD
p:BBC,c:0017d5,c:0317d5,c:050001,c:1217d6,c:1617d4,C:2600,f:400
4540:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
Channel 5 HD
p:BBC,c:001901,c:031901,c:050001,c:121902,c:161900,C:2600,f:400
4680:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
BBC FOUR HD
p:BBC,c:000191,c:010192,c:030191,c:091950101,C:2600,f:1005
4484:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
BBC One HD
p:BBC,c:0019c9,c:0319c9,c:050001,c:1219ca,c:1619c8,C:2600,f:400
46c0:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
CBBC HD
p:BBC,c:001b59,c:031b59,c:050001,c:091b5d0101,c:121b5a,C:2600,f:1004
44c8:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV1 HD
p:ITV,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:12183a,c:161838,C:2600,f:400
 
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percivjr said:
Don't know if you have to adjust namespace...

Code: 
1100:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC NEWS
p:BBC,c:0001f5,c:0101f6,c:0301f5,c:1601f4,C:2600,f:400
1200:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
CBBC
p:BBC,c:00012d,c:01012e,c:03012d,c:1602bc,C:2600,f:400
1c00:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC RB 1
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,c:160384,C:2600,f:400
1140:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC Red Button
p:BBC,c:000385,c:0103b7,c:030385,c:093890101,C:2600,f:1005
1240:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
CBeebies
p:BBC,c:000191,c:010192,c:030191,c:160320,C:2600,f:400
1044:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC ONE
p:BBC,c:000065,c:010066,c:030065,c:09690101,C:2600,f:1005
107c:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC ONE Scot
p:BBC,c:001005,c:011006,c:031005,c:161004,C:2600,f:400
107d:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC ONE NI
p:BBC,c:0013ed,c:0113ee,c:0313ed,c:1613ec,C:2600,f:400
107e:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC ONE Wales
p:BBC,c:000c1d,c:010c1e,c:030c1d,c:160c1c,C:2600,f:400
1280:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
Parliament
p:BBC,c:000259,c:01025a,c:030259,c:091950101,C:2600,f:1005
10bf:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC TWO
p:BBC,c:0000c9,c:0100ca,c:0300c9,c:1600c8,C:2600,f:400
10c0:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC THREE
p:BBC,c:00012d,c:01012e,c:03012d,c:091310101,C:2600,f:4
11c0:0d7aab23:1000:0001:1:0:0
BBC FOUR
p:BBC,c:000191,c:010192,c:030191,c:091950101,C:2600,f:1005
4f20:0d7aab23:1000:0001:22:0:0
5SELECT
p:Channel 5 Broadcasting Ltd,c:001d4d,c:031d4d,c:050001,c:121d4e,c:161d4c,C:2600,f:400
4ec0:0d7aab23:1000:0001:22:0:0
TBN UK
p:Governance Ministries,c:001edd,c:031edd,c:050001,c:121ede,c:161edc,C:2600,f:401
4500:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
Channel 4 HD
p:Channel 4 Broadcasting,c:00189d,c:03189d,c:050001,c:12189e,c:16189c,C:2600,f:400
4600:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
BBC Three HD
p:BBC,c:001b59,c:031b59,c:050001,c:121b5a,C:2600,f:5
4700:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
CBeebies HD
p:BBC,c:001a2d,c:031a2d,c:050001,c:100004,c:111a2e,c:121a2e,C:2600,f:5
4440:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
BBC Two HD
p:BBC,c:0017d5,c:0317d5,c:050001,c:1217d6,c:1617d4,C:2600,f:400
4540:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
Channel 5 HD
p:BBC,c:001901,c:031901,c:050001,c:121902,c:161900,C:2600,f:400
4680:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
BBC FOUR HD
p:BBC,c:000191,c:010192,c:030191,c:091950101,C:2600,f:1005
4484:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
BBC One HD
p:BBC,c:0019c9,c:0319c9,c:050001,c:1219ca,c:1619c8,C:2600,f:400
46c0:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
CBBC HD
p:BBC,c:001b59,c:031b59,c:050001,c:091b5d0101,c:121b5a,C:2600,f:1004
44c8:0d7aab23:1000:0001:25:0:0
ITV1 HD
p:ITV,c:001839,c:031839,c:050001,c:12183a,c:161838,C:2600,f:400
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Thanks! 🙂 I'll give this a try when I'm back home later
 
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puddleduck said:
15w working again on Technomate TM-5402 M3 with new key .
Thanks
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Hi, I wonder if you can help me. I have a TM-5402 M2. I have 15w working fine on the SD channels but not the HD. It seems maybe the 4 digit PPID entry doesn't work. For 27.5w the PPID on the HD channels was the same as the VPID, and that worked, but not on 15w. I get No Audio/ Video.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
 
manic01

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analogman said:
Hi, I wonder if you can help me. I have a TM-5402 M2. I have 15w working fine on the SD channels but not the HD. It seems maybe the 4 digit PPID entry doesn't work. For 27.5w the PPID on the HD channels was the same as the VPID, and that worked, but not on 15w. I get No Audio/ Video.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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PPID is same as 27w, reboot your stb. I have it on a MK 2 here ok
ie BBC 1 hd 6601 BBC 2 6101 etc

IMG_20240602_125930.jpg
 
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Thanks, Sadly no difference after 2 minutes full.power off reboot.....

Sorry trying to place a photo but can't manage it. Identical to your but with no decoding happening. My PIDS same as yours.
 
manic01

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analogman said:
Thanks, Sadly no difference after 2 minutes full.power off reboot.....

Sorry trying to place a photo but can't manage it. Identical to your but with no decoding happening. My PIDS same as yours.
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You have correct biss keys associated for each channel?
 
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manic01 said:
You have correct bets as keys associated for each channel?
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I am using the biss key that was on the intelsat 907 transponder for all channels. That works on the SD channels. My understanding is that the biss key is per transponder, so all channels on the same transponder will need that same key.
I have 4 digit PPID, VPID and APID set as ITsat 907. Where the PPID is, only in the HD channels, the same as the VPID. This is because the HD channels have a 5 digit PPID which can't be entered on my TM5402 M2.
So I think I have exactly what you have but get No Audio/Video on the HD channels. 😟
 
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