Best C-band lnbs for offset dishes?

moonbase

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Lyngsat already reporting ESPN transmitting on 45W America's beam


Thank you, it is useful info.

Frequency is 3850H so it is within the scope of a RED grade band pass filter or LNBF with 5G filtering (3.8-4.2 GHz).
However, it is reported as being on the Americas beam which makes it unlikely for reception in the UK.

I cant recall ever getting anything from 45.0W in C-Band with a 2.0m dish at a UK location.
 

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It might be worth trying to get a ESPN signal from 55.5W.


Good advice, there are quite a few ESPN channels on 55.5W in C-Band across a couple of frequencies. There are also a few Fox Sports channels on 55.5W.
They are listed as on the Americas and Europe beam which is quite strong I believe? They are also within scope of a RED 5G filtering device (band pass filter or LNB(F) or both).

I do not have line of sight to 55.5W to test reception but I think it might be OK to receive in the UK with a 1.8m dish, would need to be verified.
Perhaps 55.5W has something to offer for @kippysat re ESPN ?
 
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Good advice, there are quite a few ESPN channels on 55.5W in C-Band across a couple of frequencies. There are also a few Fox Sports channels on 55.5W.
They are listed as on the Americas and Europe beam which is quite strong I believe? They are also within scope of a RED 5G filtering device (band pass filter or LNB(F) or both).

I do not have line of sight to 55.5W to test reception but I think it might be OK to receive in the UK with a 1.8m dish, would need to be verified.
Perhaps 55.5W has something to offer for @kippysat re ESPN ?
Morning @moonbase, @blejac , @jaes, @abbeycott , @manic01

Thanks for the information. 45W is a non starter for us as the beam housing the ESPNs are all on the
"Americas" Cband, which is way outside our range.

According to LyngSat and Flysat there appear to be several transponders providing ESPN channels on
the "Europe" CBand beams of 40.5W, 55.5W and even 58W, but using an encryption labelled "Digicypher"
rather than "Powervu". Never heard of "Digicypher" before, so no idea what it is.

Still really want to try and see what is possible on 40.5W as we have a clear line of sight to that Satellite.
Even though we have a mini-dish, based on the posted footprint beams we should be able to get at the
very least the 4135-L-27500 transponder and Fox Sports channels.

Now 55.5W is interesting. That is quite low on the horizon and I suspect we may have an obstacle based on where
our dish is located in the garden.

At any rate, I will research the line of sight and declination angles using dishpointer and then test if I can see
55.5W. However, I'm not confident about it.
 

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Morning @moonbase, @blejac , @jaes, @abbeycott , @manic01

Thanks for the information. 45W is a non starter for us as the beam housing the ESPNs are all on the
"Americas" Cband, which is way outside our range.

According to LyngSat and Flysat there appear to be several transponders providing ESPN channels on
the "Europe" CBand beams of 40.5W, 55.5W and even 58W, but using an encryption labelled "Digicypher"
rather than "Powervu". Never heard of "Digicypher" before, so no idea what it is.

Still really want to try and see what is possible on 40.5W as we have a clear line of sight to that Satellite.
Even though we have a mini-dish, based on the posted footprint beams we should be able to get at the
very least the 4135-L-27500 transponder and Fox Sports channels.

Now 55.5W is interesting. That is quite low on the horizon and I suspect we may have an obstacle based on where
our dish is located in the garden.

At any rate, I will research the line of sight and declination angles using dishpointer and then test if I can see
55.5W. However, I'm not confident about it.
55.5W is also a non starter for me. Next doors extension get in the way..
 

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Morning @moonbase, @blejac , @jaes, @abbeycott , @manic01

Thanks for the information. 45W is a non starter for us as the beam housing the ESPNs are all on the
"Americas" Cband, which is way outside our range.

According to LyngSat and Flysat there appear to be several transponders providing ESPN channels on
the "Europe" CBand beams of 40.5W, 55.5W and even 58W, but using an encryption labelled "Digicypher"
rather than "Powervu". Never heard of "Digicypher" before, so no idea what it is.

Still really want to try and see what is possible on 40.5W as we have a clear line of sight to that Satellite.
Even though we have a mini-dish, based on the posted footprint beams we should be able to get at the
very least the 4135-L-27500 transponder and Fox Sports channels.

Now 55.5W is interesting. That is quite low on the horizon and I suspect we may have an obstacle based on where
our dish is located in the garden.

At any rate, I will research the line of sight and declination angles using dishpointer and then test if I can see
55.5W. However, I'm not confident about it.

Dr Doom here again lol ....just been checking out the 55.5° West options on my 2.2m PF for you - 3.925 V & 4.015 H needs around 9.4dB for a lock, 4.086 V needs around 7.9dB for a lock.
From my location here at about 17k North of the city of Nottingham at around 10.30am test time my GTCombo sniffed & saved them but would not open them even though i was just over the dB level required to do so.
40.5° West, 4.135 L on the other hand is a lot stronger with me at just over 13dB on the Promax but still needs around the 9.4dB area to give a lock - i'll get a GTCombo grab asap.
Signal levels might be a tad different the further South you are.
 

jaes

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Dr Doom here again lol ....just been checking out the 55.5° West options on my 2.2m PF for you - 3.925 V & 4.015 H needs around 9.4dB for a lock, 4.086 V needs around 7.9dB for a lock.
From my location here at about 17k North of the city of Nottingham at around 10.30am test time my GTCombo sniffed & saved them but would not open them even though i was just over the dB level required to do so.
40.5° West, 4.135 L on the other hand is a lot stronger with me at just over 13dB on the Promax but still needs around the 9.4dB area to give a lock - i'll get a GTCombo grab asap.
Signal levels might be a tad different the further South you are.

A couple of screen grab 'still' grabs only - for educational purpose only.
From 40.5° West. 2.2m PF
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I bring my experience on this problem, for several years in my area the 5g signal which uses a portion of the C band has been active
until last year it was enough for me to use an lnb with a 3700 filter, now with these lnbs I no longer have vision of the channel, the signal is only memorized, today I installed 2 TITANIUM lnbs with a 3.8 filter and the problems are over, I can finally to see the channels obviously within the limit of the 180 laminas disk, after having spent several € for Chinese LNBs I am convinced that the titanium ones are clearly better, the expense is quite significant but it is certainly worth it, therefore I recommend them to those who have 5G signal interference problems
 
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